invisiblecircus Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 The list of candidates selected for the 2022 Prix De Lausanne can be found here Selected candidates for the Prix de Lausanne 2022 - Prix de Lausanne In total, there were 10 entries from the UK, of which 3 were selected (2 from the video selections and 1 from the pre-selections) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverdancedjustamum Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Looks like 2 of the 3 are privately trained and not in full time vocational school here, and the other based in the US. Some candidates from Elmhurst and ENBS, although not British. Always love watching the candidates from APG. I just did a quick scan but can’t seem to find anyone from Conservatorio Annarella this time around. Two of their recent graduates did brilliantly well and went straight to soloist rank at Bayerisches Staatsballett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance.Mum Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Neverdancedjustamum said: Looks like 2 of the 3 are privately trained and not in full time vocational school here, and the other based in the US. Some candidates from Elmhurst and ENBS, although not British. Always love watching the candidates from APG. I just did a quick scan but can’t seem to find anyone from Conservatorio Annarella this time around. Two of their recent graduates did brilliantly well and went straight to soloist rank at Bayerisches Staatsballett. Off the two privately trained one is ex WL and a Fonteyn finalist the other is privately trained by a number of coaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverdancedjustamum Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Dance.Mum said: Off the two privately trained one is ex WL and a Fonteyn finalist the other is privately trained by a number of coaches. Does RBS permit their students to compete in PDL or YAGP? It seems to recruit quite heavily from these competitions but I don’t seem to have seen any of their students participate unless they have a rule not allowing them to do so. I’ve seen candidates from Elmhurst and ENBS in the past, as well as from VBA, APG, TAZ etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Neverdancedjustamum said: Does RBS permit their students to compete in PDL or YAGP? It seems to recruit quite heavily from these competitions but I don’t seem to have seen any of their students participate unless they have a rule not allowing them to do so. I’ve seen candidates from Elmhurst and ENBS in the past, as well as from VBA, APG, TAZ etc. RBS has stated in the past that they do not allow students to compete in competitions because due to their full schedules there isn't space in the timetable to accomodate competition preparation. I also imagine that the majority of the students there are already at their dream school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Neverdancedjustamum said: Does RBS permit their students to compete in PDL or YAGP? It seems to recruit quite heavily from these competitions but I don’t seem to have seen any of their students participate unless they have a rule not allowing them to do so. I’ve seen candidates from Elmhurst and ENBS in the past, as well as from VBA, APG, TAZ etc. at least once they did..... https://www.instagram.com/tv/B2YU-57JXgc/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosiesDream Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, invisiblecircus said: I also imagine that the majority of the students there are already at their dream school! That's rather sad in a way. Cecchetti is not the only method, and other schools across Europe have longer traditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I’m pretty sure the RBS doesn’t teach the Cecchetti method. They have their own system. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate_N Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I don't understand your point @RosiesDream Presumably children at the RBS do find it to be their preferred school, otherwise they wouldn't be there. How is that sad? There are many excellent conservatoires for dance across the whole wide world and the Royal Ballet School is among them, or why else would ballet students from across the world seek to study there? And the existence of other excellent schools doesn't diminish the excellence of the RBS. The main prizes of the Prix are places & scholarships at some of these world-leading schools, including the RBS. So I can see the logic of the RBS not encouraging its own students to enter. Maybe it doesn't want to lose them! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Kate_N said: I don't understand your point @RosiesDream Presumably children at the RBS do find it to be their preferred school, otherwise they wouldn't be there. How is that sad? There are many excellent conservatoires for dance across the whole wide world and the Royal Ballet School is among them, or why else would ballet students from across the world seek to study there? And the existence of other excellent schools doesn't diminish the excellence of the RBS. The main prizes of the Prix are places & scholarships at some of these world-leading schools, including the RBS. So I can see the logic of the RBS not encouraging its own students to enter. Maybe it doesn't want to lose them! The cynic in me thinks that maybe they don't allow their students to enter because it would look bad for the reputation of the school if they didn't win... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillSewingShoes Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 @Kate_N - your point is well taken, as my daughter's ballet school (not RBS), said something along the lines of, "dancers go to Prix de Lausanne to be seen by the top schools in the world, and she's already here..." So, if you're at your dream school, maybe the time, MONEY, effort, energy, nerves, etc. aren't worth it. I have to say that I do like the visibility of competitions, though, and keeping by daughter on the other schools'/companies' radar. So that's what we've been using summer intensives for recently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Perhaps one should ask how many candidates do come from the schools that are offering the scholarships. Not many as far as I can make out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I don’t think any of the elite schools are looking to enter their most promising students with a desire to win the competition. Otherwise you’d see all the dancers who’ve been quickly promoted through their companies there. It’s very much a tool for the student to be seen- which can be for many reasons. Maybe training in a less illustrious school, or privately or they are at a top class school but won’t be going into the company attached. I imagine there’s easier ways to be seen if you are at one of the ‘top’ handful of schools. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillSewingShoes Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 @Peony - Great points. This has been a very enlightening discussion for me. Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 28/10/2021 at 16:35, oncnp said: at least once they did..... https://www.instagram.com/tv/B2YU-57JXgc/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet A dancer recruited to the RBS from the Prix de Lausanne but taken to the YAGP along with Benjamin Ella and Jonathan Hanks, I think. (Memory a bit rusty!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 hours ago, capybara said: A dancer recruited to the RBS from the Prix de Lausanne but taken to the YAGP along with Benjamin Ella and Jonathan Hanks, I think. (Memory a bit rusty!) This made me curious....looking at only the finals page of the YAGP since 2000, the RBS appears yearly from 2006-2010 and again in 2016 but nowhere else. 2016 Grand Prix Joonhyuk Jun 2010 Grand Prix Wm Bracewell Claudia Dean 2009 Gold Eliza Badenes Vazquex Jonathan Hanks 2008 Gold V. Muntagirov Silver Benjamin Ella 2007 Valentino Zucchetti 2006 Grand Prix Sergei Polunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverdancedjustamum Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, oncnp said: This made me curious....looking at only the finals page of the YAGP since 2000, the RBS appears yearly from 2006-2010 and again in 2016 but nowhere else. 2016 Grand Prix Joonhyuk Jun 2010 Grand Prix Wm Bracewell Claudia Dean 2009 Gold Eliza Badenes Vazquex Jonathan Hanks 2008 Gold V. Muntagirov Silver Benjamin Ella 2007 Valentino Zucchetti 2006 Grand Prix Sergei Polunin Yes, it got me curious too as I don’t recall any candidates from RBS in recent memory. Can’t really just be their schedules as that’s like assuming other schools don’t have as busy a timetable. And perhaps they aren’t looking to lose students but if I’m remembering correctly, prizes sometime come with job contracts/offers and not just scholarships to schools. The age is also from 15 which means it’s a good way to be seen by upper schools of partner schools especially if not all from WL get RBS US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Neverdancedjustamum said: Yes, it got me curious too as I don’t recall any candidates from RBS in recent memory. Can’t really just be their schedules as that’s like assuming other schools don’t have as busy a timetable. And perhaps they aren’t looking to lose students but if I’m remembering correctly, prizes sometime come with job contracts/offers and not just scholarships to schools. The age is also from 15 which means it’s a good way to be seen by upper schools of partner schools especially if not all from WL get RBS US. From what I saw, everyone was in the "senior division". There were no entries from WL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) The competition is currently being streamed live on the Prix de Lausanne website, Facebook and Arte Concert 🙂 Edited January 31, 2022 by invisiblecircus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotadanceMa Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 28/10/2021 at 19:02, rowan said: I’m pretty sure the RBS doesn’t teach the Cecchetti method. They have their own system. You are right they no longer use Cechetti they have their own system of training now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 31/01/2022 at 09:10, invisiblecircus said: The competition is currently being streamed live on the Prix de Lausanne website, Facebook and Arte Concert 🙂 And is currently being discussed on a thread out in the main forum So if you want to discuss the performances it's probably better to use that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 30/10/2021 at 10:35, oncnp said: This made me curious....looking at only the finals page of the YAGP since 2000, the RBS appears yearly from 2006-2010 and again in 2016 but nowhere else. 2016 Grand Prix Joonhyuk Jun 2010 Grand Prix Wm Bracewell Claudia Dean 2009 Gold Eliza Badenes Vazquex Jonathan Hanks 2008 Gold V. Muntagirov Silver Benjamin Ella 2007 Valentino Zucchetti 2006 Grand Prix Sergei Polunin Of these I know that Sergei Polunin was at the RBS when he won both the YAGP and the PdL. Was he the last to be entered at the PdL whilst at the school? I know the school had to do it to keep him occupied as he was streets ahead of the others in his year group. Bored at school and too young to join the company (like Marianela Nunez) Many prize winners at PdL over the years get places at RBS or the company. I believe the philosophy at RBS is ‘what message are you sending the RB school and company if you want to participate in such an event’. RB mgmt see the PdL as a feeder of talent into their school and company. It’s a shame really as special talents like Daichi Ikarashi will never have that title on their CV as he would not have been allowed to compete. (Or persuaded not to compete). But then you don’t see participants from any of the major schools either (no Paris, Dutch, Cranko, La Scala, Bolshoi, Mariinsky) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medora Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 How do you prepare for a competition when you are at vocational school? Would the school suggest it, and prepare you? Or would you seek their permission and then prepare independently outside of school? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutugirl Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I can only really speak from my DS experience at Tring . He was entered for the Cecchetti competition , and school prepared him and coached him for his solo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Claudia Dean did PDL before she was accepted by RBS didn’t she? I think they may have offered based on her performance there but can’t remember! @FionaE vaganova, cranko and bolshoi have entered students in the past few years. And SAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junedancer Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, Peony said: Claudia Dean did PDL before she was accepted by RBS didn’t she? I think they may have offered based on her performance there but can’t remember! @FionaE vaganova, cranko and bolshoi have entered students in the past few years. And SAB Yes Claudia Dean was at Prix but not listed as a winner. Audrey Freeman was offered her RBS place following her participation in Prix but also doesn't list as a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos73 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 There are quite a few prix de Lausanne finalists competitors and prize winners currently at rbs upper school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanangra Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Senior competitors are looking for positions in companies rather than placements at schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 There are some winners and finalists in the current RB Company too. Mayara Magri Leticia Dias Cesar Corrales and the young Italian boy from last year Marco Masciari ( 2020) Im sure there is a Japanese boy also just joined the Royal Ballet who was a finalist or winner there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Actually there is another thread on this years Prix de Lausanne in the Ballet /Dance News and Information thread. However usually in previous years this has always been in the Doing Dance thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, LinMM said: There are some winners and finalists in the current RB Company too. Mayara Magri Leticia Dias Cesar Corrales and the young Italian boy from last year Marco Masciari ( 2020) Im sure there is a Japanese boy also just joined the Royal Ballet who was a finalist or winner there. Also Luca Acri, David Yudes, Harrison Lee, Sae Maeda, Stanislaw Wegrzyn, Yu Hang, Hanna Park and I'm possibly forgetting someone! Marco Masciari is still the Prix de Lausanne apprentice but I hope he will be taken into the main company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Yes quite a few there all of which I’ve watched and noted while at the Prix except for Sae Maeda and Hanna Park I’ve missed those two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicent Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 There's not much traffic on the other thread. I'd love to discuss it here! I've been watching it all day while doing housework. Love hearing the coaches comments, the boys' contemporary coach is quite a character. I didn't catch his name while cleaning the bathrooms! I have my eye on a few of girls. Trying to keep up with their numberings but selfishly wish they would wear the same leotards every day as that is how I remember them! I think so far Sumin Lee no. 310 has caught my eye the most. Also 323 Garcia Vazquez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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