graemew Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Having skimmed through this thread I can see no comments concerning the Nunez/Clarke partnership in R&J. I can understand that giving Reece a steady hand for his first runs makes sense and Marianela is just the dancer for that, but would have loved to see her partnered by Vadim once more. I know a few people who had rather hoped that Bolle might have made a guest appearance as Romeo this year, with his career winding down I believe. And to throw my fourpennyworth in, I can imagine Campbell making an excellent job of Romeo. He brings alive all the roles I've seem him dance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmeralda Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I really love the partnership from Nunez and Muntagirov to death and could watch them all the day but I think it also nice to see sometimes a different partnership. I will maybe see Clarke/Nunez and think this could be very interesting...Just wished there were more different Romeos to the Juliets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliceinwoolfland Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I think it's good that Marianela is being paired with someone other than Vadim as they always seem to be together! I would LOVE to see Vadim with one of the younger female principals. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 In the light of other recent (and not-so-recent) RB news, I'm wondering when we shall find out what will be keeping Steven McRae out of Frankenstein. I can't imagine him easily giving up a created major role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmhopton Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, aliceinwoolfland said: I think it's good that Marianela is being paired with someone other than Vadim as they always seem to be together! I would LOVE to see Vadim with one of the younger female principals. I've always wanted to see Vadim with Naghdi. They are both such musical, lyrical classical dancers I would have thought together they'd be amazing. However, I've always been curious to see Vadim with Osipova also and at least I'm getting that next week. Perhaps the other casting may happen next season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) This is my wish (hope) too. How I would love to see a Muntagirov/Naghdi paring one day soon because these two principals have such a purity of line as well as a clean, pure and well placed classical technique. Edited November 2, 2018 by Xandra Newman typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophoife Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 30/10/2018 at 20:24, Coated said: Should the thread perhaps be renamed the 'Campbell Lament' or something similar? I'm sure there's an appropriate Pìobaireachd somewhere... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coated Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Sophoife said: Pìobaireachd I had to google that - excellent suggestion. Maybe the most hardcore Campbellites could hire a piper to play a suitable Pìobaireachd (am I getting this right?) at the first night of any ballet where he's not cast in the main role 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophoife Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 04/11/2018 at 15:00, Coated said: I had to google that - excellent suggestion. Maybe the most hardcore Campbellites could hire a piper to play a suitable Pìobaireachd (am I getting this right?) at the first night of any ballet where he's not cast in the main role Thank you! Pìobaireachd in the Gaelic literally means "piping", but in general is used to denote classical piping - salutes, gatherings and laments - called Cèol Mòr, or great music, while the pipe tunes with which more people are familiar (marches, reels, jigs etc) are called Cèol Beag, or little music. Flowers of the Forest is Cèol Mòr and Scotland the Brave is Cèol Beag. Okay back to topic now... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 On Wednesday I booked for the Spring season. My booking list for the mixed bill was compiled from the casting listed on the ROH website before my priority booking opened. After booking my tickets, I decided to double check them and discovered that the casting which was now on the website was different to my original list. Assuming I’d made a mistake when I copied the casting, I booked a couple of extra tickets so as to make sure I had tickets for the casts I wanted. I have since discovered that the casting when I am not logged in corresponds to my original list. However, when I am logged in, the casting is completely different. I now have no idea which is correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Great. Just the same as with winter booking, then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, Bluebird said: On Wednesday I booked for the Spring season. My booking list for the mixed bill was compiled from the casting listed on the ROH website before my priority booking opened. After booking my tickets, I decided to double check them and discovered that the casting which was now on the website was different to my original list. Assuming I’d made a mistake when I copied the casting, I booked a couple of extra tickets so as to make sure I had tickets for the casts I wanted. I have since discovered that the casting when I am not logged in corresponds to my original list. However, when I am logged in, the casting is completely different. I now have no idea which is correct! This is a ridiculous situation. It’s as if the Mad Hatter is running the website! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sim said: This is a ridiculous situation. It’s as if the Mad Hatter is running the website! It's worse than that: it's unprofessional, discourteous and arrogant of the ROH to allow this situation to continue. Bluebird, when you finally work out which are the correct dates, they'd better not charge a fee for exchanging or returning the ones you don't want! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) I quite agree - very disconcerting. I tend to think that when logged in the information looks more understandable (matinee 18 May) . When not logged in there's such a mass of repetitions. Here's a small extract: Within the Golden Hour. Yuhui Choe Principal. Yuhui Choe Principal. Kristen McNally Within the Golden Hour. Francesca Hayward Principal. Francesca Hayward Principal. Marcelino Sambé I'm pretty sure McNally/Sambé are not in Within the Golden Hour. When logged in for Within the Golden Hour the six dancers are sensibly listed: Principals Yuhui Choe Francesca Hayward Akane Takada Alexander Campbell Valentino Zucchetti Tristan Dyer But this is pretty hopeless and has been a problem for weeks. Edited December 1, 2018 by JohnS Typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: It's worse than that: it's unprofessional, discourteous and arrogant of the ROH to allow this situation to continue. Bluebird, when you finally work out which are the correct dates, they'd better not charge a fee for exchanging or returning the ones you don't want! Maybe a reader of this forum might be able to use my spare tickets? I definitely have two spare SCS for the matinée on May 18. SCS D43 and D44 £6 each. I have intermittent internet access at the moment but, if anyone would like either or both of these, do please PM me. I'll eventually post them on the ticket exchange forum when I'm next on line. Edited December 1, 2018 by Bluebird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I think that those of us who are affected in our purchases by this website mess should write to the ROH (perhaps Chris Shipman?). It does seem as if the person who is responsible for posting the casting doesn't understand how best to display the names for a triple bill - i.e. ballet A cast/ballet B cast - with names repeated if they are also in ballet A/ballet C cast - again with names repeated if they are in ballet A and/or B. This format will then transfer easily if there are separate pages for each ballet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, capybara said: I think that those of us who are affected in our purchases by this website mess should write to the ROH (perhaps Chris Shipman?). It does seem as if the person who is responsible for posting the casting doesn't understand how best to display the names for a triple bill - i.e. ballet A cast/ballet B cast - with names repeated if they are also in ballet A/ballet C cast - again with names repeated if they are in ballet A and/or B. This format will then transfer easily if there are separate pages for each ballet. Yes, it's quite a simple principle really... I think they've got some sort of program set up that overrides common sense and needs to be rewritten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_skichick Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 20 hours ago, Bluebird said: Maybe a reader of this forum might be able to use my spare tickets? I definitely have two spare SCS for the matinée on May 18. SCS D43 and D44 £6 each. I have intermittent internet access at the moment but, if anyone would like either or both of these, do please PM me. I'll eventually post them on the ticket exchange forum when I'm next on line. I have PM you about d43 please Hope Sydney good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) It's yours, Jules. I've replied and will post the other one on the Ticket Exchange forum now. Edited December 2, 2018 by Bluebird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummykool Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I have written (twice) to the ROH about how difficult (if not downright impossible) it is to work out triple bill casts on the ROH website. I have just received the following reply... "Apologies for the difficulties you are experienced with our website, and for the delay in our sending you a response. We have been working to resolve the problem and now have a fully tested solution. We will publish an update to the live website when we next have an opportunity to release the code and should be displaying error-free casting on our mixed programmes next week. Best wishes Ellen" Watch this space... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beryl H Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I hope they get it right by Friends Booking next Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Mummykool said: We have been working to resolve the problem and now have a fully tested solution. We will publish an update to the live website when we next have an opportunity to release the code If they have a 'fully tested solution', why can they not apply it now, I wonder? And what does having 'an opportunity to release the code' mean to those not involved in website development? Very poor practice to use such jargon in general communications. But thanks for the info, Mummykool. Let's hope it is ok next week (or earlier). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, bridiem said: If they have a 'fully tested solution', why can they not apply it now, I wonder? And what does having 'an opportunity to release the code' mean to those not involved in website development? Very poor practice to use such jargon in general communications. Typically, any new development work will go through several stages of testing to try to eliminate any unforeseen problems with it, including being put on what's called a staging environment, which mimics as far as possible the "live" (real) website to make sure it doesn't do something drastic like make the whole thing go down; only when these hurdles have been cleared is it "released" so that it's on the public website. Very often there are specific windows (sometimes only once a month) when this last can happen, as it can be a little like performing surgery: there are protocols involved and you need to have the right people on hand if things go wrong to make fixes or if necessary "roll back" to the last version. I know it sounds long winded, but many serious problems are averted by following this procedure; though it does make me wonder if they're following it how on earth some of the rubbish we've seen already on the new website slipped the net. Increasingly there's a move to being a lot more flexible about all this, but you need the right systems and people to do that successfully; all the evidence points to the ROH not being in that position. I agree that talk of "releasing the code" isn't very helpful! p.s. I'm not an expert on the subject, but I think what I've said is broadly correct and reflects standard practice. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Apologies if this is the wrong thread but it's sort of related to spring casting. Does anyone know why multiple performances of Romeo & Juliet are listed as having filming? Usually for cinecast productions there seems to be 2 performances filmed, both with the same cast. Here https://www.roh.org.uk/productions/romeo-and-juliet-by-kenneth-macmillan no fewer than 6 performances are listed as having filming, covering 5 different leading couples with Ball & Naghdi only being filmed once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Beats me. Unless it's the long-promised view-on-demand programme that Tony Hall promised? But while I was there, I had a look at the horrendous prices. How weird, I thought, as I looked at the bottom 3 price ranges: amphi H43 and H72 have been left out. No they haven't: they are £28!!!! Is anybody in their right mind knowingly going to pay that much for a seat where you have less than a 50% view of the stage?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 As far as I know those extra filmings are back-ups, in case something goes wrong during the Naghdi/Ball Live Cinema relay performance on 11th June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 41 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said: As far as I know those extra filmings are back-ups, in case something goes wrong during the Naghdi/Ball Live Cinema relay performance on 11th June. I don't see how it would help to have performances already filmed with different casts though. I think the audiences just might notice if it was suddenly a different Romeo & Juliet being shown, especially with the cinema close-ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 They are a combination of backups, director's/camera operators' rehearsal, and, in the case of future DVD releases, alternative footage to cover for things going haywire. The livestream-to-DVD releases are actually livestream-intercut-with-the-other-filming-to-DVD releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Mimi said: They are a combination of backups, director's/camera operators' rehearsal, and, in the case of future DVD releases, alternative footage to cover for things going haywire. The livestream-to-DVD releases are actually livestream-intercut-with-the-other-filming-to-DVD releases. But, as Dawnstar says, when they do this it's always been with the same cast as for the "main" performance itself. Like her, I can't remember a time when other casts' performances have also been marked as being filmed. (Sad of us to notice, I guess!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Dawnstar said: I don't see how it would help to have performances already filmed with different casts though. I think the audiences just might notice if it was suddenly a different Romeo & Juliet being shown, especially with the cinema close-ups. Not cinema but I was at a BRB performance of Romeo and Juliet where Monica Zamora was dancing Juliet. She was injured in the ballroom scene and was replaced by Sandra Madgwick from he balcony scene onwards. There was no lost of continuity. Many of the audience did not seem to notice that a statuesque dark-haired Juliet had been replaced by a petite blonde one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Jan McNulty said: Not cinema but I was at a BRB performance of Romeo and Juliet where Monica Zamora was dancing Juliet. She was injured in the ballroom scene and was replaced by Sandra Madgwick from he balcony scene onwards. There was no lost of continuity. Many of the audience did not seem to notice that a statuesque dark-haired Juliet had been replaced by a petite blonde one! I remember that performance. It was supposed to have been Miyako Yoshida dancing originally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Darlex said: I remember that performance. It was supposed to have been Miyako Yoshida dancing originally! Really? I booked for Zamora! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Jan McNulty said: Not cinema but I was at a BRB performance of Romeo and Juliet where Monica Zamora was dancing Juliet. She was injured in the ballroom scene and was replaced by Sandra Madgwick from he balcony scene onwards. There was no lost of continuity. Many of the audience did not seem to notice that a statuesque dark-haired Juliet had been replaced by a petite blonde one! Even in a theatre the size of the Birmingham Hippodrome (assuming you were seeing BRB there) you'd think that would be noticeable! Veering off topic, I remember Sandra Madgwick as Clara in BRB's Nutcracker when it was televised in about 1994. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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