Pas de Quatre Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Prix de Lausanne prize winners choices Apart from one which is still to be decided, here is the list of destinations. Three apprentices to ENB, two students to RBS, one student each to Dutch National Ballet Academy and Vaganova Academy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa O`Brien Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I don't understand how a person can CHOOSE such and such a school or apprenticeship. What if that particular school or whoever doesn't want to take that person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Because these are the prizes from Partner organisations who offer a school place for younger prize winners or an apprenticeship for the older ones. The prize winners get to choose their destination. There is just one who is not taking up their prize, presumably has accepted a paying contract elsewhere. Have a look at the Prix website, it is all set out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollylamb1 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 The prize winners are of a high enough standard that they would be accepted at these institutions, most of them are company standard but still of school age! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeliB Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 As far as I am aware once a school/company has offered a prize they are duty bound to accept someone who chooses them. I think for schools they generally keep them til graduation but for companies it's interesting to see thereafter they then get further employment in the company beyond the apprentice year - not necessarily because of their quality as a dancer but whether they fit what the company wants I suppose (and presumably whether the dancer actually likes the company having spent a year there- no doubt it works both ways!). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 The school or company must accept the student for a year but I understand there is some dialogue between the student, the school/ company and the Prix organisers which is why the destinations aren't announced right away. If more than one prize winner chooses the same school or company, that school/ company only has to take the higher placed winner, but can take two or more if they wish. Very surprised that three are headed to the ENB after the company's recent challenges. I think this is the first time in several years that no one has chosen an apprenticeship with the RB. Perhaps they feel that they have a greater chance of a permanent contract with another company, or are indeed offered one at the outset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos73 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 9 hours ago, invisiblecircus said: . Very surprised that three are headed to the ENB after the company's recent challenges. . Perhaps there are as many dancers there who are happy as the ones who have left and weren’t? According to my dd who toured with them last year it certainly seemed like an incredibly vibrant and happy company. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 4 hours ago, amos73 said: Perhaps there are as many dancers there who are happy as the ones who have left and weren’t? According to my dd who toured with them last year it certainly seemed like an incredibly vibrant and happy company. my distinct impression is that it's polarised if people inside like and are liked by Ms Rojo and the Senior Staff then all is well , but if they fall out the falling out is big ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeliB Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 22 hours ago, invisiblecircus said: I think this is the first time in several years that no one has chosen an apprenticeship with the RB. Perhaps they feel that they have a greater chance of a permanent contract with another company, or are indeed offered one at the outset. I did a quick scan of the winners since 2011 who chose RB as an apprentice - only 1 (David Yudes) stayed with the company beyond the apprentice year (and every year except 2012 I think had one person who chose RB as an apprentice - so that's an uptake rate of only one in 5). Who knows whether that is their choice or whether they didn't get a contract offer, but if I were a winner with only the statistics available to me to support my choice it wouldn't be very encouraging.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, CeliB said: I did a quick scan of the winners since 2011 who chose RB as an apprentice - only 1 (David Yudes) stayed with the company beyond the apprentice year (and every year except 2012 I think had one person who chose RB as an apprentice - so that's an uptake rate of only one in 5). Who knows whether that is their choice or whether they didn't get a contract offer, but if I were a winner with only the statistics available to me to support my choice it wouldn't be very encouraging.... Yes, exactly, that was my point. RB has been a popular choice for a number of years as you say, especially when you consider the number of companies on offer, but winners who have chosen other companies seem to have been a lot more successful at getting a contract with the same company. Last year in particular there were very few contracts available at the RB with several of their own apprentices not getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 However, as I recorded on an RB thread, Gerald Dowler has revealed in the April Dancing Times that Stanislaw Wegrzyn, the current Prix apprentice at the RB, will be joining the company next season. It may be the case that the Aud Jebsen Young Dancers' Programme at the RB is perceived as limiting the opportunities for 'outsiders' to secure permanent contracts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 hours ago, capybara said: However, as I recorded on an RB thread, Gerald Dowler has revealed in the April Dancing Times that Stanislaw Wegrzyn, the current Prix apprentice at the RB, will be joining the company next season. I hadn't heard that, that's great news for him! 10 hours ago, capybara said: It may be the case that the Aud Jebsen Young Dancers' Programme at the RB is perceived as limiting the opportunities for 'outsiders' to secure permanent contracts. Perceived by who? I'm sure it IS limiting the opportunities for outsiders, but the RB is under no obligation to share the contracts around or make it easier for anyone. With the exception of the first year of the programme, the Aud Jebsen young dancers have exclusively been RBS graduates, and I'm sure many are glad to see the opportunities given to them. How many times do we see people complaining that more contracts are not being given to graduates of a company's own school? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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