capybara Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 I'd never heard the phrase "paper the house" before. But it's a useful descriptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, bangorballetboy said: And Christiansen has been pretty panned for saying so (his reason was he saw a number of critics at the first night that he doesn't usually see there). Salome is pretty well sold (over 90% and amphi is sold out for every show) and no sign of any ticket offers so I very much doubt the house will be papered any more than the usual house seats. I've no idea whether he's right in this case - he often isn't! - but his exact words on Twitter (I just looked) were that "there was definitely a much higher percentage of 'press' in the stalls than is usual on a first night - people who aren't normally considered eligible." The Amphi is usually sold out, probably because that's where the affordable seats are concentrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I'd guess that if there was a higher percentage of press than usual then the ROH might be wanting the reviews to reach more people, which might suggest that sales were a bit slow, but it's a bit of a leap to assume that any papering was done, surely? Anyway, we know that Swan Lake will sell regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Sure, but I guess what I was trying to say was that an absence of empty seats doesn't always tell the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: Sure, but I guess what I was trying to say was that an absence of empty seats doesn't always tell the whole story. Indeed not, but ROH usually put out an offer if something is not selling well. Why would they paper the house without trying to sell the tickets at a cheaper price first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, bangorballetboy said: Indeed not, but ROH usually put out an offer if something is not selling well. Why would they paper the house without trying to sell the tickets at a cheaper price first? Out of interest, how do you normally get wind of ROH offers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 05/01/2018 at 21:38, Bluebird said: I've taken a screenshot of the booking chart and attempted to attach it here. Hope it works! OMG - HOW MUCH?!!!!! Tickets i usually go for are now £80! Not good news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Heck. A comfy seat with decent legroom is going to be too much even as an Access Member. They're live streaming to cinemas, aren't they? Might have to see it there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Lizbie1 said: Out of interest, how do you normally get wind of ROH offers? Combination of newspapers (usually Metro, Evening Standard and Sunday Times) and Time Out daily mail-shot. Offers are also sometimes emailed to those on the student mailing list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthE Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, bangorballetboy said: Combination of newspapers (usually Metro, Evening Standard and Sunday Times) and Time Out daily mail-shot. Offers are also sometimes emailed to those on the student mailing list. Which I gather was the case at opening night of Salome - there was a late-notice Student Standby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 02/01/2018 at 12:50, RuthE said: Apologies if I have missed somebody suggesting this further up the thread, but my hunch is the opposite; I wondered if the reason Naghdi is not dancing the title role in Manon is because she is preparing her first Odette/Odile. To return to this: I've just noticed that Naghdi isn't listed for Elite Syncopations in May either, despite her very fine turn in October. Case closed, I'd say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Lizbie1 said: To return to this: I've just noticed that Naghdi isn't listed for Elite Syncopations in May either, despite her very fine turn in October. Case closed, I'd say! Yasmine only danced those Elites as Sarah Lamb injured, so the casting in May reverts to how it was - now that Sarah injury free again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: Yasmine only danced those Elites as Sarah Lamb injured, so the casting in May reverts to how it was - now that Sarah injury free again. Did Takada, Stix-Brunell and Hamilton all appear in October as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina G. Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, zxDaveM said: Yasmine only danced those Elites as Sarah Lamb injured, so the casting in May reverts to how it was - now that Sarah injury free again. I was told Yasmine Naghdi was cast to dance the title role in Elite Syncopations in the upcoming May run but as Sarah Lamb was injured back in October Naghdi took over from her on Opening Night and all other performance dates; Lamb will now dance the role in the May run instead of Naghdi (and since Naghdi is not dancing the title role in Manon nor in Elite Syncopations the hope is thus very high that she will be cast as Odette/Odile). Edited January 14, 2018 by Nina G. spelling 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Nina G. said: I was told Yasmine Naghdi was cast to dance the title role in Elite Syncopations in the upcoming May run but as Sarah Lamb was injured back in October Naghdi took over from her on Opening Night and all other performance dates; Lamb will now dance the role in the May run instead of Naghdi (and since Naghdi is not dancing the title role in Manon nor in Elite Syncopations the hope is thus very high that she will be cast as Odette/Odile). ah - you may be right. It does sometimes seem that dancers are 'allocated' a certain number of performances of 'X', and will make swops if injuries intervene. As an aside, this may account for the multi cast rejigs in things like Nutcracker (for lower ranks) when we get the cast change slips! And I hope you're right about the SL casting!!! :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) The pairings are: Nunez/Muntagirov (5) Lamb/Hirano (4) Takada McRae (4) Cuthbertson/Bonelli (4) Naghdi/Kish (3) Osipova/Ball (4) As shown, most pairings get 4 shows each with Naghdi/Kish having 3, including the Schools'Matinee. Lamb/Hirano dance the Welcome Performance. There are 2 open matinees (Naghdi/Kish and Osipova/Ball). Edited January 17, 2018 by capybara adding information 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Interesting that Naghdi and Ball are not paired ... but perhaps wise to give each debut artist a partner who has some experience in their respective roles. Osipova/Ball could prove to interesting indeed. He can be such a fine actor - and she will, I think, very much feed off of that. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Seems strange that Nunez/Muntagirov get an extra show at the expense of Naghdi/Kish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shya100 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: Seems strange that Nunez/Muntagirov get an extra show at the expense of Naghdi/Kish. Don't think its strange. First cast and all. Bigger reputation. Edited January 17, 2018 by Shya100 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Sure but they normally divide them equally regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shya100 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: Sure but they normally divide them equally regardless. More experienced. Bigger reputations and ultimately will bring in more money. I am thrilled for Takada as well. Great news for them both. Other four were a shoe in. Edited January 17, 2018 by Shya100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: Sure but they normally divide them equally regardless. I'm not sure that is the case, in fact. I think that sometimes debutantes are only given a couple of performances of a big role even when others are doing more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mallinson Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, capybara said: The pairings are: Nunez/Muntagirov (5) Lamb/Hirano (4) Takada McRae (4) Cuthbertson/Bonelli (4) Naghdi/Kish (3) Osipova/Ball (4) As shown, most pairings get 4 shows each with Naghdi/Kish having 3, including the Schools'Matinee. Lamb/Hirano dance the Welcome Performance. There are 2 open matinees (Naghdi/Kish and Osipova/Ball). What's the source of this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, John Mallinson said: What's the source of this information? Sent it by the ROH with no caveats. I do not deal in speculation or leaks. I am sure that it will be on the website tomorrow. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina G. Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Lizbie1 said: Seems strange that Nunez/Muntagirov get an extra show at the expense of Naghdi/Kish. Marianela Nunez is celebrating 20 years with The Royal Ballet, she is the most senior ballerina of the 6 ballerinas cast to dance Odette/Odile so she gets an extra performance. I am absolutely thrilled Yasmine Naghdi is dancing Odette/Odile, and with an experienced, established Principal who has the princely look necessary for this role. I think Ball is paired with Osipova in order for him to gain more partnering experience. I would have loved to see the Naghdi/Ball duo but it must be for a good reason Mr O'Hare has given them each a different partner. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Casting going up as I type! http://www.roh.org.uk/productions/swan-lake-by-liam-scarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Love the idea of Osipova and Ball. His dancing always moves me and I am hoping he will prove to be the successor to Ed Watson - if it is possible to achieve such a thing! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Nunez/Muntagirov 17 May, 1, 6 & 12 June (and student performance on 21 May) Lamb/Hirano 23 May, 5 & 14 June (and welcome performance on 19 May (m)) Takada McRae 19(e) & 31 May, 15(e) & 21 June Cuthbertson/Bonelli 22 May, 2, 8 and 18 June Naghdi/Kish 28 May (m) and 11 June (and schools' matinée on 6 June) Osipova/Ball 28 May (e), 9, 15(m) and 19 June 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Who is Takamine of May 31? I can see this is going to be an expensive time. I would love to see Naghdi and Muntagirov and Hirano, also Macrae and Takada whom I think are a lovely pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, penelopesimpson said: Who is Takamine of May 31? It's a typo for Takada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletfanp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Weird. Just looked and the casting has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 42 minutes ago, Balletfanp said: Weird. Just looked and the casting has been removed. As you say, very weird - and still down 45mins later!!!!! Thanks to bangorballetboy we will be able to make comparisons when and if the casting reappears to see if anything has changed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Whereas I can totally understand the reasons for putting Matthew and Yasmine with experienced partners in this ballet, they did after all debut together in Sleeping Beauty which worked a treat, and that ballet isn't exactly a walk in the park for the ballerina! For me personally, I don't really mind toooo much about who Siegfried is because it is all about the ballerina in this particular ballet (as in Beauty and most 19th century classical ballets), so perhaps chemistry isn't quite as important as it is in the dramatic ballets. Of course, it's a lovely bonus if there is real rapport between the prince and the ballerina, but for me not quite so important as in more recent ballets (Cranko, MacMillan, etc.). Just my opinion.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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