Ellie Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm off to watch the 2017 Genee Final in Lisbon next week. Of course I'll be cheering all of the candidates on, but if any of you forum members require an extra whoop or cheer for participating DC's or students let me know x 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishDancerMum Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I've been following Ellis Derrick - give her a huge whoop from me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Give a cheer for all the ballet west girls competing from me🙂🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Consider it done !(I think that my fellow spectators will think I'm a bit of a nutcase - but never mind ) x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happymum Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 How many candidates from UK this year? I know there are some from Ballet West and Elmhurst but couldn't find a list of candidates anywhere. Good luck to all participants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwel Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Couple of girls from Tring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishDancerMum Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) I just heard from Ellis Derrick's FB page that Ellis made it into the finals!!!!!!!! Any other results? Edited September 14, 2017 by ScottishDancerMum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishDancerMum Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Got it! Congratulations to all the finalists!https://www.rad.org.uk/news/finalists-of-the-2017-genee-announced?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Genee_FinalistAnnouncement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahw Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Incredible how many finalists are 15 and must already have Adv 2 distinction!! Amazing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinda Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Many of the students in full time pre professional training in Australia pass RAD Advanced 2 at 15 years and a few even take and pass solo seal at 16/17 years. Getting distinction is standard if the student is aiming for a professional career. Students will often take Int, Adv 1and Adv 2 exams on consecutive years (or even less). I'm not saying this is necessarily a good thing! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 14 hours ago, sarahw said: Incredible how many finalists are 15 and must already have Adv 2 distinction!! Amazing. and note that none of the 15 year olds are British. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahw Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Probably not a coincidence. .... A lot seem to be Aussie. Are they all at normal academic schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 This if off topic, and possibly a little ranty, but this is my 2 cents... I'll just point out that for these Aussie students wanting to win a place (and finance) at a school like Royal Ballet or Elmhurst or really any of the upper schools in the UK, competitions like this are seen as the 'only chance'. In fact, many of the 'full time' dance studio programs deliberately teach both RAD and cecchetti to make their students eligible for the most competitions possible! If you think about it, it's not like a student from down under can casually fly to England a couple times to audition for ballet schools. There's not really a comparative 'upper school' system that I know of in Australia, students tend to dance full time at a 'local studio' and do distance or online schooling until they're university age, then do a degree in dance. For the serious kids who have the same aspirations to attend upper schools as British students do, the pressure is on to qualify and make the finals at one of these competitions and be noticed by a big international school (particularly for the girls). I'm not saying I agree with the system or the amount of pressure placed on our young people, but this might be why the Australian's are on average younger than the brits? 53 minutes ago, sarahw said: Probably not a coincidence. .... A lot seem to be Aussie. Are they all at normal academic schools? I'd say most of them aren't at 'normal' academic schools. The majority probably train full time at a studio either in conjunction with a part time course-load at a participating school or through online education programs/homeschooling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahw Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Thanks Viv - that fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 the aussies of course having a very well developed distance learning system for schooling thanks to the materials from the School of the Air https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Dear all Without going into the Aussie/Brit issue which is complex I want to know if the judging panel have the following information when they are judging or is it just the number of the dancer only. Country of dancer, school attending and dance teacher's name. There are news articles currently stating that many large companies including the BBC, omitting school and university details from job applications as a way of avoiding conscious or unconscious bias. Do you think that bias has crept into the Genee? Do you think this may result in perhaps a less rich final from an artistry point of view? Do certain schools or teachers hold sway with the RAD? Your thoughts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Hello ravasmum and welcome out of the lurking shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLou Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 According to Facebook, Harris Beattie from Central won, and also won the audience choice award and the choreographic award. First dancer to win all 3 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 More detail from the RAD here: https://www.rad.org.uk/news/medallists-of-genee-2017-announced?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Genee_MedallistAnnouncement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arabesque1 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 08/09/2017 at 22:17, anaballerina said: Give a cheer for all the ballet west girls competing from me🙂🙂 Hi anaballerina Are you currently a Ballet West student? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 To anwer Ravasmum - as the Genée is an in-house closed competition of the RAD, and to take part the dancer has to have passed Adv 2 with Distinction, the exam entry form will name the teachers who have taught them the syllabus. So I can't see how it could be made a "blind" entry, or what purpose it would serve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Thanks pas de quatre for the info. I am familiar with requirements. Though is there a time limit on how long ago you did your Adv2 exam? Or how many times you can compete in the competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletbean Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Amazing talent from everyone that took part and congratulations to all the medalists. Harris Beattie is certainly a name to follow when he Graduates. A bright future awaits him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes it will be very interesting to see where Harris Beattie goes on graduation. The time limit for the Genée is by age - you must be between 15 and 19 on the closing date for applications. I know some people have competed more than once, but I don't know if there is a set number of times it is allowed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 8 hours ago, arabesque1 said: Hi anaballerina Are you currently a Ballet West student? I am. I'm in third year🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arabesque1 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, anaballerina said: I am. I'm in third year🙂 Thanks for responding anaballerina. My dd is auditioning for September 2018! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cara in NZ Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Just wanted to add that the only NZ representative made it to the finals, and trains (in ballet) at our dance school. She goes to a normal state secondary school and is in Year 11 (age 15). I have the greatest admiration for these teenagers who manage to reach such a high standard! Yes Australia has more options for pre-professional training. In NZ you have to go to a private school or home-school if you want to train during schooltime before Year 12. Edited September 17, 2017 by Cara in NZ add home-schooling option 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legseleven Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Wow Cara, she has done incredibly well especially when she attends a normal state school and a non-vocational dance school! I hope she continues her dance journey (for as long as she wants to do that) as well as she has started it - aged 15, qualified for the Genee and a finalist! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletbean Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Genee 2018 has just been announced to be held in Hong Kong. Closer to home for those competitors down under. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flit_and_float Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ellis who also made finals is only 16 & trains a local everyday ballet school too (albeit a good one but just your average dance school) pretty amazing for anyone to get to Genee level before they even start full time training! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletbean Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Flit_and_float said: Ellis who also made finals is only 16 & trains a local everyday ballet school too (albeit a good one but just your average dance school) pretty amazing for anyone to get to Genee level before they even start full time training! I honestly thought all the finalists were in full time training. That is amazing not just for the pupils but also their teachers. The standard of training available outside the Vocational Schools must be very high at some Ballet Studios. Well done to them all. PS Would love to see an award/medal handed to the teachers of the medalists in the final, as an acknowledgement by the Genee. Edited September 19, 2017 by balletbean To add the PS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canary Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 As the competition is held in September the teacher for UK students might have only met the dancer that term as they arrive for the new year. Also with the RAD changing the Majors syllabus and changing the ages for the exams although my DD did an exam each year she waited to do the new Advanced 2 RAD so was 16 in the September following that. If that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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